I should really post my stuff up

Here's a video of somebody playing around with it:

Yeah, I watched quite a few cool videos on it as well. And some show how the vector adjustment tools work, and how they are not limited to just lines. They also showed how much more you can do with the MS5, which from hearing others speaking on it, has improved a great deal more.

oh wow, I need to watch more of these, I have manga or whatever version it was that Joe told me about and I've never used it, this looks awesome though

I've used it once, but I'm not really a cartoon artist so it's not that much use to me I don't think.

I've used illustrator quite often to produce web images and vehicle graphics 'back in the day' due to its file size and scalability for print. I did find however that I tweaked and tweaked vectors so much that they lost all their life. I guess it's horses for courses.